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Tuesday, October 21, 2014

Gross seeks input on creation of large-area Community Parking District




Do you want trucks, recreational vehicles, and boats banned from residential streets in Mason District?

Mason Supervisor Penny Gross is gauging public interest in creating a large-area Community Parking District. If your neighborhood would support being part of a large-area CPD, let Gross know by sending an email to mason@fairfaxcounty.gov with “large-area CPD” in the subject line. Include your name, address, and community association or HOA.

CPD rules prohibit boats, RVs, trailers, vehicles weighing 12,000 pounds or more, vehicles with three or more axles, and vehicles transporting 16 or more people (except school buses) on public streets in residential areas. Owners of vehicles found to be in violation can be fined $75 and the vehicle can be towed.

Exceptions allow vehicles used by federal, state, or local public agencies to provide services; commercial vehicles discharging passengers, performing work, or providing services; and vehicles temporarily parked for up to 48 hours for the purposes of loading, unloading, or preparing for a trip.

A supervisor can initiate an application for a large-area CPD. To create a smaller CPD, residents have to go through a petition process.

31 comments:

  1. What? Please clarify, is this to have MORE trucks
    to be parked on RESIDENTIAL streets? For MORE vehicles to be parked somewhere on RESIDENTIAL streets in Mason District (Annandale, AMERICANA DR.) than there are already now?

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    1. the opposite, I think.

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  2. No, it's to have all the undesirable vehicles now parked in Lake Barcroft banned, towed, and moved into the rest of the residential neighborhoods in Mason District where they will legally sit, ad infinitum, destroying your property values and mine. Another Gift from Gross.

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  3. Looks like an Evinrude outboard, I'm fine with it. Merc 150 would be unacceptable.

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  4. If this gets the rotting pile of boat, with 2 tree's growing out of it parked on my street towed away I am all for it 100%. I suggest towing it to an incinerator.

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    1. You don't need a CPD to get a hulk towed.

      http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/code/vehicles/

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  5. Its about time Penny Gross. Applause for putting the community at large first. Now lets see you stick to your guns and get it done.

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    1. She woke up from a long sleep.

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    2. You seem to think she means to protect all of Mason District....I warn you she means only the areas that line her pockets. The rest of us will be inundated with the outlawed vehicles moved onto our streets and we will be able to do nothing about them because she doesn't give a sh** about the rest of us. She deserves no applause, nor is she awakened.
      You are being fooled, yet again, by a professional charlatan lining her silken pockets.

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    3. I don't see anything to be gained by ugly comments like this one.

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    4. I agree with you. Casting negative aspersions on an elected official without providing any basis in fact is cheap and easy. This is one reason why many people would never run for elected office.

      I would also note that no elected official I am aware of is above these types of attacks regardless of their political party. Morover, it is not sexist or racist to criticize any elected official, except when the criticism is based on their gender or skin color rather than on their performance in office.

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    5. Line her pockets? What are you talking about? If you don't know who she is or understand the petition, don't post rude and unproductive comments.

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  6. so the boat owner moves the boat into his driveway and parks his legal pick-up truck on the street and we are somehow better off? I think not!

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    1. Sure they can do that but it can only be there for 48 hours then its tow time.

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    2. Maybe not 48 hours but if that truck doesn't move it can be tagged as abandoned. Either way it can't just sit there forever.

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  7. Not a bad idea. We will need a large garage if we revitalize Baileys X-roads according to plans into a mixed use area so people not able walk or use transit to the area can visit retail and restaurants. If and when that happens, perhaps in my lifetime and I'm 39.

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  8. What about those of us who are not represented by a community association? As far as I know, I am not represented by one, but would NOT appreciate boats and other undesirables being parked on my street.

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    1. You can send your input directly to Penny Gross' office: email Supervisor Gross at mason@fairfaxcounty.gov, with the subject line: Large Area CPD, and include:

      Name
      Address
      Any comments you want to make

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    2. Provide all of this info so that yours can be the first house that she points them to park in front of.

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    3. Other large area CPDs in the county include all residential streets whether there is an HOA or not

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  9. This parking district will turn into the new Pep Boys parking lot in no time. People will do repair work there with little regard to the clean up. Why change your oil on your property and risk and oil stain you will have to clean up? Do it here instead and just leave your waste behind. It will also turn into a long-term parking dump for people who are too cheap to pay to house their own property.

    If you have a boat or a large commercial vehicle and can't pay to have it stored someplace, you have no business owning it. Your business wouldn't tolerate me leaving my personal vehicle in your company parking lot long-term, why should people provide you with free parking either here or on their streets?

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    1. A large area CPD means that ALL of Mason District would not allow boats, RVs and trailers to be parked on the streets in the entire district I hope. It's unclear if only part of Mason District can be designated as a CPD based on a supervisor's application.

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    2. The problem will still be enforcement. People will just use this place as long-term storage for junk and dilapidated vehicles. Mr. Junk can leave his old boat and his 1985 Ford Oil Leak here. There needs to be serious enforcement or this place will be a collection of hot mess in a centralized location.

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    3. Precisely. The wording from the Fairfax County Website on CPDs leaves a lot to be desired: "Vehicles parked in violation are subject to a $75 fine for each violation and may be towed at the owner’s expense."

      May be towed??? or may not? When?



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  10. This is not about creating a single, central parking area. A Community Parking District (CPD) means that people cannot put their boats, RVs and trailers on any street in Mason District. They must park them in their driveway, park outside of Mason District, or pay for storage elsewhere. It is not a central location/parking lot.

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  11. This is more over-regulation from Penny Gross and Fairfax County. More government involvement is not the answer to every problem and definitely not the answer here. Neighborhoods work better when people mind their own business and don't try to tell their neighbors what to do.

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    1. The problem people don't care and don't give a damn about their neighbors. This is not over regulation. Why don't you go live in Iraq where there is no regulation and you can live in a tent in the middle of a dirt road and have coffee with ISIS.

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    2. Neighborhoods are made up of people who agree to live together and in harmony by allowing the government to control the shared areas. If an individual does not agree they can move to the country and live as they choose. Inability to follow rules and regulations is a problem only when someone refuses to follow them.

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    3. "Neighbors work better when people mind their own business and don't try to tell others what to do". When its my property that I have worked hard on, paid for with my blood, sweat and tears and have a high level of respect that is being effected by the neighbor that has zero regard for others and only themselves I have a problem. Mind ones own business is just another way of asking for society to look beyond and away from their inability to do the right thing and follow simple child-like rules and standards.

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  12. On one hand, keeping watercraft, boat trailers, motor homes, trailers, semi-trailers buses and so on off residential streets in Mason District makes sense. It is Fairfax County Code 82-5B that has process that can be used to create a Community Parking District. But there are questions.
    That code at https://library.municode.com/HTML/10051/level3/THCOCOFAVI1976_CH82MOVETR_ART5BPRAGPAWATRMOHOOTDECEAR.html says "The application fee for any petition submitted in accordance with this Section shall be $10.00 for each petitioning property address within the proposed District. Application fees shall be returned if the area fails to qualify for the establishment, expansion, modification, or abolition of a Community Parking District."
    Does that mean each house has to pay the $10 fee to be considered and included?
    For the two processes, establishment or modification by petition or by application, why would anyone ever do by petition if it costs petitioners and each property address money?
    Code says “Large area means all of a magisterial district, excluding certain areas that meet minimum size requirements.” So does that mean all of the Mason District?
    Code says "All requests for the creation of a Community Parking District [by application] for a large area shall meet the following criteria: (1) An initial submission identifying the requested perimeter shall be directed to the appropriate district supervisor." So how can a supervisor make a request by application if the request goes to the appropriate district supervisor?
    Violations are fine of $75.00 each to the person, and towing at the owner's expense is allowed. There is reference to signs that designate a CPD erected by the County, and there is reference to large area CPD without signage. How would you feel about a $75 fine or a tow without signs being provided? If signs are provided, for all of the Mason District, there is a cost to install and maintain that many signs.

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  13. I own a boat and use it regularly for work. I just lost my parking spot on Minor Lane as FCPS took over that stretch. It's harder and harder for me to keep my boat stored on a street around here as streets are becoming posted due to boats being too large, an eyesore, or seemingly abandoned. My old boat was totaled last year when it was parked on a street and hit by a drunk. Too bad I can't park it in the off Kmart lot by the Shell where all the vans and cars with flat tires are parked. Or maybe we can park them in the doomed restaurant lot of Gagnam Sushi.

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