tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post5244984338645161877..comments2023-09-16T04:58:07.261-04:00Comments on the Annandale Blog: Mason land use committee votes against homeless shelter relocationAnnandale Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07543558586252790593noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-27427221106965610472016-07-09T22:53:12.006-04:002016-07-09T22:53:12.006-04:00What's really going on? It is simple, blatant,...What's really going on? It is simple, blatant, political corruption. Just look at the money the county is giving away to the developers at Bailey's. If we keep letting them get away with it, it will only get worse. The Board of Supervisors acts as though the homeowner/occupiers are irrelevant to their decision making in eastern Fairfax county. Mason District's Supervisor won't even protect her own neighborhood. Why is that? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-59643474141722977972016-07-05T21:26:30.650-04:002016-07-05T21:26:30.650-04:00Penny lives in Lincolnia.Penny lives in Lincolnia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-32314030364602158932016-07-04T15:08:40.621-04:002016-07-04T15:08:40.621-04:00The reason we are even talking about this issue is...The reason we are even talking about this issue is because if enough well-informed residents speak out at the July 20, 8pm Planning Commission meeting in FFX, they do have the power to correct the BoS's incompetent and disingenuous relocation proposal. (The former bc you do not put a shelter for single adult and predominantly male homeless next to a vulnerable population like seniors, for the same reasons you don't put it next to a community daycare and the latter because the county says it is a "temporary" location when they are not legally bound to relocating again in five or fifty years.) <br /><br />If you are familiar with the proposed relocation site, you know it is already overbuilt and no other outdoor recreational space exists for the seniors or surrounding community. To effectively take away this entire greenspace as is proposed, flies in the face of the comp. plan. But only if residents show up to have their voices heard, will we have a chance of defeating this idiotic proposal. Because the BoS were just recently re-elected, they realize they have years to recover from this betrayal of their naive constituents. Speak up now or it will only get worse.What's Really Going On...https://www.blogger.com/profile/16442528755010778392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-40902505034877629102016-07-01T07:56:12.630-04:002016-07-01T07:56:12.630-04:00To Anon at 5:28pm Alexandria residents use the sh...To Anon at 5:28pm Alexandria residents use the shopping center, roads and parks in the area of the proposed temporary shelter in Lincolnia. All of these will be impacted, so their concerns are important in the deliberation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-68768301597860165672016-06-30T17:09:33.589-04:002016-06-30T17:09:33.589-04:00Thanks, I realize Anon 11:58 is a troll. But why n...Thanks, I realize Anon 11:58 is a troll. But why not use the opportunity to school him and others. To wit--Couldn't copy figure but from FFX County website. Figure 1.4 shows the racial and ethnic diversity of residents in the Lincolnia CDP and Fairfax County. Residents who identify with “White Alone” comprise approximately 63 percent of residents in Fairfax County and about 48 percent of residents in the Lincolnia CDP. Residents who identify with “Black<br />or African American Alone” comprise about 20 percent of the population in the Lincolnia CDP, more than the countywide proportion of approximately 9 percent. Residents who identify with “Some<br />Other Race Alone” comprise nearly 14 percent of the population in Lincolnia, while countywide this is approximately 5 percent. The percentages shown in the bar chart indicate where there are the greatest differences in racial and ethnic composition between the Lincolnia CDP and Fairfax County.What's Really Going On...https://www.blogger.com/profile/16442528755010778392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-73822890036961997942016-06-30T09:14:04.136-04:002016-06-30T09:14:04.136-04:00Does the MDLUC have any power here? Does the BOS l...Does the MDLUC have any power here? Does the BOS listen to the planning commission? I think the answer to both is no.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-59898303202178021252016-06-30T07:39:01.126-04:002016-06-30T07:39:01.126-04:00Punishment from Penny that Mollie lives in the Lin...Punishment from Penny that Mollie lives in the Lincolnia area. You get what you voted for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-70630193115783577002016-06-30T07:37:35.513-04:002016-06-30T07:37:35.513-04:00You do not need to justify yourself to this ignora...You do not need to justify yourself to this ignorant comment. Everyone knows why there should not be a shelter there and 11:58 just wants to turn it around to something else. Ignorance is choice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-72812036079241932602016-06-29T23:08:16.457-04:002016-06-29T23:08:16.457-04:00The human resources center needs to be shelved, we...The human resources center needs to be shelved, we don't need some soviet style social service building alias the Penny Palace. Build a mixed use center. We want Mosaic not Moscow. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-85173406075753610222016-06-29T22:02:47.738-04:002016-06-29T22:02:47.738-04:00Response to Anonymous6/29/16, 12:57 PM:
What we w...Response to Anonymous6/29/16, 12:57 PM:<br /><br />What we will end up with is no revitilization and the Dump will just get dumpier. <br /><br />The selection for the homeless shelter should have been more carefully vetted, its just like the DMV. <br /><br />Yea there are whiners who will find anything to whine about and they do, but the BoS and the County failed the district big time. They failed their tax payers, constituents and the most vulnerable: seniors and the homeless. <br /><br />Time to move away from this place, its way too dysfunctional and like the Congress it is stuck in a time warp of getting nothing done. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-23364615563310975242016-06-29T21:55:48.654-04:002016-06-29T21:55:48.654-04:00Next we will have a wall surrounding the entire Ma...Next we will have a wall surrounding the entire Mason District so that the rest of the County can dump their crap in the Mason Dump. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-8615284722863197152016-06-29T18:25:48.958-04:002016-06-29T18:25:48.958-04:00No negative impacts? You must have read the staff ...No negative impacts? You must have read the staff report. The City of Alexandria's great contribution was that putting the homeless shelter next to the senior center would be "ideal" because they could share facilities and thus the site was "viable." It would be funny except that the City really said that. What's Really Going On...https://www.blogger.com/profile/16442528755010778392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-29759594826660870332016-06-29T18:20:53.066-04:002016-06-29T18:20:53.066-04:00Anon 12:57, do you really believe that this is the...Anon 12:57, do you really believe that this is the only opportunity to develop that area? If so, perhaps the Board of Supervisors should have got their ducks in a row (I.e., found an appropriate permanent location for the homeless shelter) before pursuing such a deal.<br /><br />They're not making more land inside the Beltway, so the land will eventually be developed, but we want smart development. In less than two months they decided to get rid of the only greenspace within a mile of the senior center and surrounding neighborhoods to locate a "temporary" homeless shelter in the backyard of a senior center. That sounds rash, not well thought out and unsound.<br /><br />In a heartbeat, the BoS I immediately threw out plans for a mixed-use development for a 375-unit apartment building without any consideration for the consequences of such a decision.<br /><br />We don't want to have another Mark Center debacle on our hands. I personally would rather live with the blight a couple of more years than have to live with extremely poorly thought out "improvements" for the next 50.What's Really Going On...https://www.blogger.com/profile/16442528755010778392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-72249430728438701082016-06-29T18:07:52.732-04:002016-06-29T18:07:52.732-04:00Love a troll.
Nobody disputes the need for a hom...Love a troll. <br /><br />Nobody disputes the need for a homeless shelter. We just disagree about where is an appropriate location for a single adult shelter. Based on public meetings, overwhelmingly residents believe that the backyard of a senior center/residence is not an appropriate location. For the same reasons next to a children's daycare is not an appropriate location (also considered but rejected by the County). <br /><br />Further, I assume you mean white people are racist. Two/thirds of the people at the Save the Senior Center/Greenspace demonstration were non-white. As are many of those who have spoken against the shelter relocation at the various public meetings. <br /><br />In Wikepedia, Lincolnia is cited as the most diverse area in FFX County. Meanwhile half of the county's homeless are white, higher than the percent of residents who are white in Lincolnia, so we would actually be increasing the white population if we had the rest of the county's homeless living here. But if it makes you feel any better I am against any single adult homeless shelter being located literally in the backyard of any senior citizens' residence. <br /><br />I mean we couldn't possibly be against this proposal for the obvious reason that it is ridiculous on its face and doesn't get any better upon further investigation. (In fact, maybe the people who want to put the shelter in the seniors' backyard are racist, preferring the white homeless over the non-white residents? Hmmm...)What's Really Going On...https://www.blogger.com/profile/16442528755010778392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-14233292409966468392016-06-29T17:49:23.888-04:002016-06-29T17:49:23.888-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.What's Really Going On...https://www.blogger.com/profile/16442528755010778392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-47728205103882443962016-06-29T17:28:38.616-04:002016-06-29T17:28:38.616-04:00I think the opinions of Alexandria residents, both...I think the opinions of Alexandria residents, both those who live nearby, and those who live near Baileys, and those who live elsewhere in the City, are for the Govt of Alexandria to consult, not for Mason District committee's to consider. I also doubt that this shelter were prove undesirable to shelter residents, and I doubt very much that is why it is being opposed. <br /><br />ACyclistInThePortCityAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-51077961678773487992016-06-29T16:39:08.688-04:002016-06-29T16:39:08.688-04:00To be clear that speaker stated that nearby Alexan...To be clear that speaker stated that nearby Alexandria residents were not informed, not that all Alexandrians disagreed with it. Also be careful what you wish for... an inferior temporary shelter facility with armed security at that location will have the shelter residents running for Alexandria in a hearbeat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-28353653295999759452016-06-29T15:45:03.619-04:002016-06-29T15:45:03.619-04:00Mason District has far more appropriate locations ...Mason District has far more appropriate locations for a shelter than next to fragile seniors. <br /><br />For Penny and staff to say they've been looking for years for another location is disingenous...there have been many, but their real estate agent is asleep at the switch. Time to retire Jones Lang LaSalle. They are on County pay even if they don't find a place. Use a local real estate agent who gets a commission. Bet they will find a location very quickly.<br /><br />Better yet, use some County land for free rent...like the Archives on Commercial Dr.<br /><br />The proposed apartment building, a $125M human services building and a new road to nowhere at the SEQ are NOT what the people want. It is what is being shoved down our throats by Penny.<br /><br />Find a new location for the shelter and implement the 2007 Comp Plan that calls for a mixed use development...the kind AvalonBay builds so beautifully.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-52910161165025231832016-06-29T15:15:54.966-04:002016-06-29T15:15:54.966-04:00Some of the homeless do have cars.Some of the homeless do have cars.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-46059920550355622082016-06-29T15:03:47.798-04:002016-06-29T15:03:47.798-04:00I'm still personally a bit conflicted about th...I'm still personally a bit conflicted about the avalon bay development. I see that area as very much needing revitalization, but to me the county paid too high a price for the land swap and the development is not consistent with the comprehensive plan, which calls for mixed use development - not old school monolithic use apartments. Add to that the fact that we are relocating a homeless shelter, and I seriously wonder whether we are giving up too much in our desire for redevelopment.<br /><br />12:57, you say that's "stunning cognitive dissonance", but to me, I think there is some reasonable rationale behind those who are skeptical of these efforts. Maybe it is worth the price to kick start development? Like I said, I'm personally not quite settled on it yet - but I do know that I think I disagree with the notion that it is "cognitive dissonance" for people to disagree with the process and the way this is heading.Jeff Longohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14800609058016605285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-39585207567265357742016-06-29T14:47:23.203-04:002016-06-29T14:47:23.203-04:00"The Lincolnia Senior Center is on the border..."The Lincolnia Senior Center is on the border with Alexandria, and Alexandria residents were not informed about this project."<br /><br />I am a resident of the City of Alexandria. Please do not speak for us. I do not see any negative impacts to the City from this relocation, and am glad that Fairfax is willing to share the burden (long borne by Alexandria and DC) of housing the homeless. <br /><br />In addition I would like to see the Rte 7 corridor redeveloped, and new residential density placed close to the new Rte 7 transit line, so that it can be a success. The current state of Baileys Crossroads is not good for Alexandria, IMO. <br /><br />Signed<br />ACyclistInThePortCityAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-54231687483153255592016-06-29T14:46:15.619-04:002016-06-29T14:46:15.619-04:00Mr. Smith is a real asset to this Com. He was ver...Mr. Smith is a real asset to this Com. He was very alert to the comments and everything that was being affected by this. Keep up the good work Steve Smith !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-5436511873678093782016-06-29T14:32:45.592-04:002016-06-29T14:32:45.592-04:00Where was race ever mentioned in any of this this?...Where was race ever mentioned in any of this this? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-13465504888731338022016-06-29T13:54:11.329-04:002016-06-29T13:54:11.329-04:00Exactly what benefit does the community get out of...Exactly what benefit does the community get out of an apartment building? Oh yeah, more parking intrusion, congestion and the onus of relocating the homeless members of our community who are being evicted as a result of this "revitalization".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-25000045799846851232016-06-29T12:57:30.255-04:002016-06-29T12:57:30.255-04:00Just so everyone is clear - if this falls through,...Just so everyone is clear - if this falls through, then one of the biggest revitalization projects for Baileys Crossroads also goes down with it. And NO improvements are made - Zero.<br /><br />And the same people opposing this project are also the biggest whiners about there not being any revitalization in Baileys Crossroads. The cognitive dissonance is truly stunning.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com