tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post8867446042060324653..comments2023-09-16T04:58:07.261-04:00Comments on the Annandale Blog: Lincolnia residents speak out against homeless shelter relocationAnnandale Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07543558586252790593noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-67909695233337293992016-06-03T22:22:16.627-04:002016-06-03T22:22:16.627-04:00You're right. The commenter is simply advocati...You're right. The commenter is simply advocating for socialism. Nothing bad can come from that.What's Really Going On...https://www.blogger.com/profile/16442528755010778392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-15291234303458137552016-05-31T12:32:50.888-04:002016-05-31T12:32:50.888-04:00I don't think Orwellian means what you think i...I don't think Orwellian means what you think it means.Adam Goldbarghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03940970270491817344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-54651708454312626062016-05-31T09:08:34.067-04:002016-05-31T09:08:34.067-04:00Reply to What's Really Going On... 5/25/16, 5:...Reply to What's Really Going On... 5/25/16, 5:11 pm-- And the cherry on top of this s..t sundae is that the Lincolnia site is on the City of Alexandria- Fairfax County border, so 1/2 of the people impacted have no voice in the process....... Titan Firsthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00485673282037706608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-33485245872823256322016-05-31T09:00:53.646-04:002016-05-31T09:00:53.646-04:00The selfishness extends to the piggy Fairfax Count...The selfishness extends to the piggy Fairfax County politicians (Lookin' at you Penny Gross and Sharon Bulova) who greedily accepted hundreds of thousands in political donations from the developers (AvalonBay, Landmark Atlentic-- John Thillman) who will make millions from the luxury housing they plan to build-- it will be hard to sell $750K townhouses that sit next to a homeless shelter. This "project" will not benefit the homeless, the seniors, Mason District residents or Fairfax County taxpayers-- but it will sure benefit AvalonBay, Landmark Atlantic, John Thillman, Sharon Bulova, and Penny Gross (oink, oink!). Check out www.vpap.org to follow the money....... Titan Firsthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00485673282037706608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-10751408625060893692016-05-30T12:42:07.935-04:002016-05-30T12:42:07.935-04:00The temporary shelter in the Arlington Courthouse ...The temporary shelter in the Arlington Courthouse area was there for 20, yes 20 years before they just recently opened a permamemt shelter a block and a half away. Wait for it...county officials cited proximity to the temporary shelter as one of the reasons for putting a permanent shelter there. Btw, the temporary shelter is still open with no plans to close it.What's Really Going On...https://www.blogger.com/profile/16442528755010778392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-72147711840363701892016-05-29T22:38:04.252-04:002016-05-29T22:38:04.252-04:00Selfish? The greater good? How Orwellian of you. L...Selfish? The greater good? How Orwellian of you. Let me guess I should also pay my fair share, but you won't define what "fair share" means. Isn't the county being selfish by displacing the homeless, and moving them further from social services and job opportunities both of which will help them become more stable.<br /><br />Isn't the county being selfish when moving the shelter next to the senior center will require the elderly residents to live on permanent lockdown and forego any greenspace on which to exercise and socialize? <br />I guess both the homeless and seniors are being selfish and not thinking of the greater good if they raise these concerns.What's Really Going On...https://www.blogger.com/profile/16442528755010778392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-43642184079481943582016-05-29T22:35:44.731-04:002016-05-29T22:35:44.731-04:00Selfish? The greater good? How Orwellian of you. L...Selfish? The greater good? How Orwellian of you. Let me guess I should also pay my fair share, but you won't define what "fair share" means. Isn't the county being selfish by displacing the homeless, moving them further from social services and job opportunities both of which will help them become more stable.<br /><br />Isn't the county being selfish when moving the shelter next to the senior center will require the elderly residents to live on permanent lockdown and forego any greenspace on which to exercise and socialize? <br />I guess both the homeless and seniors are being selfish and not thinking of the greater good if they raise these concerns.What's Really Going On...https://www.blogger.com/profile/16442528755010778392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-59311610584089139882016-05-29T19:54:41.412-04:002016-05-29T19:54:41.412-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.What's Really Going On...https://www.blogger.com/profile/16442528755010778392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-22662583543119343812016-05-29T15:31:20.824-04:002016-05-29T15:31:20.824-04:00Anon7:49
I get it. That would be like the County ...Anon7:49 <br />I get it. That would be like the County driving working class homeowners out of their homes by allowing commercial interests to take over their neighborhoods; commercial interests that would then combine to rezone once stable, high quality neighborhoods to high density multifamily rental units yielding mega returns on their investments, the combining would be by special invitation only, of course. I believe they would do that. I know they’re capable of doing that. A curse on the rascals, or is the word gangsters. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-14757649543002610862016-05-27T08:54:27.746-04:002016-05-27T08:54:27.746-04:00There is selfishness here and greed and callous in...There is selfishness here and greed and callous indifference and it all starts with FAIRFAX COUNTY. It is the County that is forcibly evicting the homeless from the current Shelter without finding a new home despite having years to do so. The County does not want a shelter anywhere near the new government building they have planned, so the homeless have to go. They are so determined to do this that they signed a legally binding agreement to close down the existing shelter by 1 March 2017. The indifference and lack of humanity here is difficult to fathom. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-9830809000176781012016-05-26T22:42:49.397-04:002016-05-26T22:42:49.397-04:00my point exactly its all about YOU and not the gre...my point exactly its all about YOU and not the greater good or others in the County. So selfishAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-76671698211190287932016-05-26T16:25:08.109-04:002016-05-26T16:25:08.109-04:00If our neighborhood is kept safe - YES!! It's...If our neighborhood is kept safe - YES!! It's our money they're using anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-24292227315198747932016-05-26T15:55:36.822-04:002016-05-26T15:55:36.822-04:00so the county should buy an existing business and ...so the county should buy an existing business and then shut them down and open the center? how wouldn't that be a waste of tax dollars? stop complaining, the site being proposed is fine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-90639405573586365472016-05-26T10:04:18.501-04:002016-05-26T10:04:18.501-04:00Can't be certain that it will be temporary: &q...Can't be certain that it will be temporary: "A temporary marketing center/office building constructed in 1986 to serve the Fairview Park commercial area near Falls Church will be allowed to exist indefinitely, the Board of Supervisors unanimously agreed Feb. 16. The one-story, 7,359-square-foot facility, which shares a 6.1-acre parcel with an eight-story office building and a two-story parking garage, originally was allowed to exist through the build-out of the Fairview Park area. County planning staff did not find any problems during their review of the site and the applicant, Copt Fairview, has agreed to pave a walkway now covered with stepping stones, officials said.<br />“It goes to show how long ‘temporary’ can last,” said Supervisor Linda Smyth (D-Providence). “We’ve all seen this before. And now it will be there forever.”"<br />http://www.insidenova.com/news/business/fairfax/fairfax-allows--year-old-temporary-building-to-stay/article_fcc2357e-d705-11e5-ba72-873594a75281.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-51626062952653725142016-05-26T07:49:21.121-04:002016-05-26T07:49:21.121-04:00Thank you for thinking this through. Unfortunately...Thank you for thinking this through. Unfortunately you are right this is the scenario for the future. The county loves shared services. I have heard that Robert Stalzer realized at the MDLUC meeting that he is going to have to share the properties with the public that the county has looked at and are looking at for possible relocation of the shelter. ThThe county can't say this is propriety information. Fairfax County is a public government that represents citizens. If they dealing with a private entity they can't keep that information secret!! Please write Robert Stalzer and demand to see the other properties. Relocating the shelter behind the senior center and surrounded by hundreds of homes cannot happen. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-74690415078514385742016-05-26T06:07:36.111-04:002016-05-26T06:07:36.111-04:00More accurately, the bond referendum is for four (...More accurately, the bond referendum is for four (4) shelters to be upgraded and/or relocated, Bailey's being only one of them. Moreover, should the referendum fail, funding to relocate Bailey's will come from another source. Sometimes a cigar really is just a cigar; in this case, temporary really does mean temporary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-20215546135177657672016-05-25T18:17:51.471-04:002016-05-25T18:17:51.471-04:00Don't forget, Penny wants $14.M in a November ...Don't forget, Penny wants $14.M in a November referendum to build a home and job training center for the homeless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-46257409300707797992016-05-25T17:50:09.417-04:002016-05-25T17:50:09.417-04:00Time to move...... I'm not giving FFX County ...Time to move...... I'm not giving FFX County one more penny of my hard earned money so they can use it to screw me!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-44074565763821122372016-05-25T17:11:31.538-04:002016-05-25T17:11:31.538-04:00It's been touched on but never elaborated upon...It's been touched on but never elaborated upon. The Lincolnia shelter site is permanent. Let me explain: The main two reasons the Lincolnia site was chosen was because Fairfax County already owns the property and it is already properly zoned for a use as a shelter. Once the residents living at the Senior Center die or relocate, who is going to place their elderly loved ones at a home where they are on lockdown and have no greenspace because of an adjacent "temporary" homeless shelter? Nobody. Once the population at the Senior Center dwindles, the County will conclude that the senior center should become the permanent homeless shelter because the county already owns it, it is already properly zoned and the building is already well-suited for a large number of adult residents. To rub salt in the wound, they will also use the fact that the "temporary" shelter has already made the location ideal for serving the homeless who miraculously now live there (thanks to the County who brought them there in the first place by opening up the "temporary" shelter there). There's nothing like good circular reasoning to justify shafting your constituents.What's Really Going On...https://www.blogger.com/profile/16442528755010778392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-14413414574773484732016-05-25T15:04:41.609-04:002016-05-25T15:04:41.609-04:00The County has a plethora of options available wit...The County has a plethora of options available without imposing a homeless shelter on the elderly and family neighborhoods.<br /><br />If a temporary site is absolutely necessary, how about parking the homeless trailers in the parking lots of the County archives? That is an industrial park with a bus route and is rent free.<br /><br />It is disingenuous of Gross and the County staff to tell residents that they are out of options. Their party line doesn't pass the smell test. <br /><br />What is really, really going on?Concernedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12360899016672072883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-43118026283851766402016-05-25T10:49:44.096-04:002016-05-25T10:49:44.096-04:00A few more valid items as well:
1) There is NO co...A few more valid items as well:<br /><br />1) There is NO complete & dedicated sidewalk network to the proposed location In Lincolnia, nor is there a great bus network or many bus stops near-by.. ( compared to new sidewalks & multiple bus stops etc. at & near the current Bailey’s site).<br /><br />2) It is smart for the neighbors & the County to know where the residents go every day ( for job/ life skills training & medical care etc) -- during the daytime hours. As I would suspect that this location is not as convenient as the current site and creates more transportation issues for the residents than it solves.. <br /><br />3) Unless a permanent location is identified up front ( now), I would not advise moving it anywhere as this Lincolnia site will become a de-facto permanent site.<br /><br />4) The largest liquor store within miles (Total Wine) is not an ideal neighbor for this use ( literally across the street).<br /><br />5) I do agree that the Senior Day Care & Senior Resident population is not an ideal mix with a new & active homeless shelter—just not a good match as far as age, awareness & vigilance of one’s surroundings , orientation & security.<br /><br /> The County should be pro-active & go investigate real & viable sites … For instance the entire area around or near the current Bailey’s site :<br /><br />1) U-Store Self Storage<br />Falls Church, VA<br />5829 Seminary Rd. – Center Street –Scoville area<br />Falls Church, VA 22041<br /><br />Or <br /><br />2) The Moose Lodge… 5710 Scoville St, Falls Church, VA 22041--( lots of Land & backs to commercial )<br /><br />Or 3) 5815 Seminary Rd, Falls Church, VA 22041 (this site was actually a DMV many years ago).<br /><br />Or 4) A series of vacant lots in the 6500 Block of Church St ( one block Off Columbia Pike—directly behind the German Gourmet & literally 1 block from the current Shelter)<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246743662284890173.post-1384863078855607482016-05-25T09:52:52.984-04:002016-05-25T09:52:52.984-04:00The County's responsibility for this mess has ...The County's responsibility for this mess has finally been laid bare. The relocation of the Shelter to Lincolnia is a direct result of their failure to find a permanent location and their unwise decision to sign an agreement to vacate the current Shelter by 1 March 2017.<br /><br />The County claims they are diligently looking for a permanent site but simultaneously refuse to share any information even under a VFOIA request. Its no wonder the residents do not trust Fairfax County and therefore believe that the "temporary" shelter will actually be permanent.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com